"vTweeters treat their vtubing identity like their fursona"Juniper Heartstrings

Discord Degeneracy (And Degeneracy in general) Containment Zone

The Proctor

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Recently there has been an uptick in the amount of degeneracy in the main thread. Therefore, I am creating this thread as a containment zone for it. This does not mean you can unleash your degeneracy here, it just means that I'm moving the more extreme and explicit kinds of material that have been popping up in the main thread here. All regular rules still apply to this thread.

What exactly do I define as 'degeneracy', though?

I define degeneracy as anything that crosses the line between euphemism and into outright depraved behaviour.

For example; posting 'I think Kirsche's fish blowjob audio might be just be what finally convinces Sakana to hire her on, if you know what I mean' is a euphemism.

Posting 'Honestly Kirsche's fish blowjob audio legit got me hard irl. Sakana's tiny Californian balls must be churning with cum ready for that whore mouth' is degeneracy.

Both of the above examples are saying the same thing overall, but one obviously moves the conversation along a much more explicit path, and stands out as something most people who just want to talk about cute dancing ducks would take issue with. I still encourage a stance of 'block and move on', but the thing is, I can't block anything as an administrator. I have to read this shit even if it's fucking deleted. So I'm taking action to protect my own eyes.

Now sometimes, degeneracy only appears in documentation. Aka, somebody outside this website acted like a degenerate and somebody here screenshotted them in order to archive their activity and laugh at them. That's always fine (so long as it breaks none of the rules), and is what this thread is primarily a containment for.

However, what this thread is not for is expressing your own degeneracy. As I stated in the rules, I do not want to know about which idol you want to fuck. I thought this was entirely self-evident, but some people here are retarded. Some people will take a post saying 'I really like MeeMaw and would like to be kissed by her IRL' (cringe but not exactly reason to call the police) as an excuse to then post something far more explicit and unsettling. From now on, if I see such a post in the main thread, I'm moving it here and marking it as a degenerate containment action.

As Lucy Pyre points out, all vtuber interactions are inherently parasocial. There's nothing wrong with being parasocial to a degree. The line is crossed when you start openly broadcasting your parasocial desires on a public platform to people who don't give a fuck and are weirded out by it.

But what about Discord? Well, Discord is to vtubers what Tumblr was for SJW's and the Homestuck fandom. Discord is a zero-brains-required-for-entry user-moderated Skype/Teamspeak/whatever else alternative where degenerates gather like flies to Elin honey. While it has a very few decent spaces with practical uses, Discord by and large is a hive of lunatics and is well known for being operated mostly by furries.

In such an environment, the absolute most disgusting kinds of vtuber fan can easily thrive. This leads to all manner of revolting behaviours being normalized and tolerated, resulting in overspill that has led many talents to become disillusioned with the very people who are supposed to be supporting them.

In addition to what I've enumerated upon above, this thread is a containment zone for this kind of fandom activity. It differs from /vt/ and other similar platforms due to the relative lack of anonymity and the much more hugbox-like nature of Discord as a whole. On /vt/, degenerates are often called out and insulted for their revolting behaviours. On Discord, user-based moderation allows the worst of the worst to congregate and build their own safe spaces where nobody can tell them what to do with their jar and figurine collections.

Please understand that I'm not making this its own thread to try and segregate or censor people. I'm making it because some of the things that have been brought up in relation to Discord recently has been genuinely nauseating, and I don't want to have people forcefully exposed to it against their will. Basically, if the contents of a post would put somebody off their food, it goes here.

And now that I've explained how this works, I'm going to start drinking heavily. Have fun.
 
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Sithis

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Josh was right, Discord really does ruin everything. Yuko is gonna get nerfed hardcore because of a handful of 40 year old chumcuck creeps sending her jizz tributes.

Thank you @Arznbae, that archive will probably be one of the last times we hear unfiltered Yuko.
 
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tangourilla

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
I grabbed some screenshots from the discord in question for posterity regarding "THE BOO BRO CUM INCIDENT" as dubbed by /vt/
The man in question.

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The Image that kicked off the entire thing.

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tangourilla

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Apparently its not his fault for sending unsolicited cum pictures, it was all THE HACKER KNOWN AS 4CHAN.
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Edit, more context. This has made my morning very entertaining.
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tangourilla

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
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Well that escalated faster than I expected.
 

tangourilla

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Further context on whatever you found? I know about /k/ and nuggetfest but didn't know there was a grooming or drinking incident. Seems like the cracks in jewcorp's empire are finally beginning to appear.

She canceled the twitter space that was supposed to happen in 20 minutes.


But XCOM is still supposed to happen later today.

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The gist of all the people complaining. Here is the archive I pulled it from. https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/55633955/
 

tangourilla

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Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Any updates from the fagcord?
They mentioned the rule changes on webpage already posted here. Mostly just coping and waiting for her response. I guess some other Idol Corp person mentioned it.
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That was Kurt's last post, nothing since. Its pretty quiet since most of them are in either voice chat or in the stream chat on youtube.
I did find out Kurt is military.
Edit: More sperg stuff.
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tangourilla

Degen
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
We taking bets on how many he sent to Pips?

Also yes, as you predicted, his profile is literally filled with gross shit ranging from legit pedo posting to hitting on every vtuber he can find from indies all the way up to Ina.

I thought I was onto something with the "cinnafrogiie" thing but that's just some tranny he commissioned for art and got blocked by
HE WRITES LEWD FAN FICTION ABOUT YUKO.
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Edit Archive https://archive.ph/E6KLn
 

tangourilla

Degen
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Looking at Discord history, he is an E-4 in the Army, S1 classification, which I am not sure what that is in terms of MOS codes. And he is 21 years old, Possibly in Texas.
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tangourilla

Degen
Joined:  Feb 24, 2023
Holy shit lmao is this fucking loser a noncom POG? That would be some genuinely hilarious shit to find out he larps as something special but in reality is a paper pushing fag who's never seen combat due to age and rank. S1 is basically an officers attendant iirc but I might be wrong.
If this dumbass gets tracked down it's gonna be fucking hilarious. Imagine going into combat and you find out the douchebag tailing around your CO jacks it to anime loli shit. I'd probably just blue on blue and claim it was the enemy.
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He is going to the sandbox to die for Israel.

Edit: His reddit account, pretty much dead. https://www.reddit.com/user/nearly_quality/
 

The Proctor

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Joined:  Sep 9, 2022
Recently there has been an uptick in the amount of degeneracy in the main thread. Therefore, I am creating this thread as a containment zone for it. This does not mean you can unleash your degeneracy here, it just means that I'm moving the more extreme and explicit kinds of material that have been popping up in the main thread here. All regular rules still apply to this thread.

What exactly do I define as 'degeneracy', though?

I define degeneracy as anything that crosses the line between euphemism and into outright depraved behaviour.

For example; posting 'I think Kirsche's fish blowjob audio might be just be what finally convinces Sakana to hire her on, if you know what I mean' is a euphemism.

Posting 'Honestly Kirsche's fish blowjob audio legit got me hard irl. Sakana's tiny Californian balls must be churning with cum ready for that whore mouth' is degeneracy.

Both of the above examples are saying the same thing overall, but one obviously moves the conversation along a much more explicit path, and stands out as something most people who just want to talk about cute dancing ducks would take issue with. I still encourage a stance of 'block and move on', but the thing is, I can't block anything as an administrator. I have to read this shit even if it's fucking deleted. So I'm taking action to protect my own eyes.

Now sometimes, degeneracy only appears in documentation. Aka, somebody outside this website acted like a degenerate and somebody here screenshotted them in order to archive their activity and laugh at them. That's always fine (so long as it breaks none of the rules), and is what this thread is primarily a containment for.

However, what this thread is not for is expressing your own degeneracy. As I stated in the rules, I do not want to know about which idol you want to fuck. I thought this was entirely self-evident, but some people here are retarded. Some people will take a post saying 'I really like MeeMaw and would like to be kissed by her IRL' (cringe but not exactly reason to call the police) as an excuse to then post something far more explicit and unsettling. From now on, if I see such a post in the main thread, I'm moving it here and marking it as a degenerate containment action.

As Lucy Pyre points out, all vtuber interactions are inherently parasocial. There's nothing wrong with being parasocial to a degree. The line is crossed when you start openly broadcasting your parasocial desires on a public platform to people who don't give a fuck and are weirded out by it.

But what about Discord? Well, Discord is to vtubers what Tumblr was for SJW's and the Homestuck fandom. Discord is a zero-brains-required-for-entry user-moderated Skype/Teamspeak/whatever else alternative where degenerates gather like flies to Elin honey. While it has a very few decent spaces with practical uses, Discord by and large is a hive of lunatics and is well known for being operated mostly by furries.

In such an environment, the absolute most disgusting kinds of vtuber fan can easily thrive. This leads to all manner of revolting behaviours being normalized and tolerated, resulting in overspill that has led many talents to become disillusioned with the very people who are supposed to be supporting them.

In addition to what I've enumerated upon above, this thread is a containment zone for this kind of fandom activity. It differs from /vt/ and other similar platforms due to the relative lack of anonymity and the much more hugbox-like nature of Discord as a whole. On /vt/, degenerates are often called out and insulted for their revolting behaviours. On Discord, user-based moderation allows the worst of the worst to congregate and build their own safe spaces where nobody can tell them what to do with their jar and figurine collections.

Please understand that I'm not making this its own thread to try and segregate or censor people. I'm making it because some of the things that have been brought up in relation to Discord recently has been genuinely nauseating, and I don't want to have people forcefully exposed to it against their will. Basically, if the contents of a post would put somebody off their food, it goes here.

And now that I've explained how this works, I'm going to start drinking heavily. Have fun.
 
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hololive ruined /jp/

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pippa's feet sure are something to ponder and behold.
 

Nenélove

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(I was gonna post this in the main thread yesterday but i had a moment of doubt about what kind of point i was making and this thread conveniently popped up so here it goes)

I was thinking about the yuko thing while sleep-deprived, so pardon me if im being autistic since my brain is working on fumes rn.
This will sound prudish (it probably is) but i feel like a lot of chuubas are becoming more and more degenerate to try to one-up one another.

I am not going to claim that is an objectively bad thing; vtubing has always benefited from parasocialism and it's mainly aimed at filthy weebs who like that sort of thing. I also see that a lot of it is played off as ironic or teasing or pandering to an audience that prefers that content and that is totally fine in itself.

My concern is that a lot of very fucked in the head people do not understand irony, or they don't understand that it's just an act. I know this is a slippery-slope kind of thing but it nags at the critical part of my brain. It's kinda like 4chud, the discourse there has always been ironically autistic and edgy, but that shit only attracted people who didn't get the joke and actually believe all of the shitposting.

I won't blame the fans though, there's always gonna be autistic fuckwits with weird proclivities who try to infest anything they see, the problem here is our oshis my guys, pandering to these people is the problem, even if ironic it only brings in more degeneracy to this community and chuubas should really start to check their own retarded fans, even if it makes them mad.

Tl;Dr :youroshiisawhore:
 

Superduper Samurai

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I stole this from the seanigs known as vtuber memes but its a discord post so it counts
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agility_

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Does this thread also work for vtubers that live on discord. They say some fouled up shit too.
 

The Proctor

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El Rrata

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The Proctor

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How do you mute a thread?

It's the little 'unwatch' button at the very top of the page, between the thread title and the first post, on the right.
 

kestraline

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Would it be possible to split the existing Idol Corp tribute / Kurt posts and put them in this thread?
 

The Proctor

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Would it be possible to split the existing Idol Corp tribute / Kurt posts and put them in this thread?
If you can link me to where they start then I'm willing to do so.
 
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